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On January 26, the Virginia House of Delegates debated, amended, and passed a bill authorizing a constitutional convention, including provisions for submitting the new constitution to the people. The session also handled reports, motions for revenue and bank amendments, and re-appointed officials.
Merged-components note: Continuation of the Virginia Legislature report, including vote tallies.
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HOUSE OF DELEGATES.
Monday, Jan. 26.
CONVENTION.
Mr. Doddridge called up the Convention bill; and, on motions made by him and Mr. Gordon, some verbal amendments were agreed to.
Mr. Doddridge moved to strike out three sections, with the view of inserting others having the same object, but guarding against the necessity of an extra call of the Legislature.
After some conversation on the impropriety of leaving it to the discretion of the Convention, whether or not they would submit the new Constitution to the people, the object of Mr. Doddridge was answered by an amendment offered by Mr. Mason, of F. declaring that if the Convention did not provide for submitting the Constitution to the people, then the proceeding should be as pointed out in the section alluded to.
After considerable debate, in which the bill was opposed by Messrs. Bayley, Parker of Caroline and McMahon, and supported by Mr. May, and explanations by several members of the votes they intended to give,
Mr Goggin enquired of the chair whether the section offered yesterday and adopted by the house was open to amendment. He was answered in the negative by the Speaker, who added that there was no part of the bill could be amended in its then stage: that the question then was whether the new bill would be adopted by the House in lieu of the original bill; that if it were adopted, then the gentleman if he had amendments to offer, could only obtain his object by moving to commit the bill; when he might offer his amendments.
The question was then put upon adopting the amended bill as a substitute for the original bill, and carried in the affirmative, ayes 107 noes 99.
A motion was then made by Mr. Goggin to commit the Bill to the Committee of the Whole House; and lost, ayes 94, noes 109.
The question was then taken upon engrossing the said Bill as amended, and reading it a third time, and was determined in the affirmative.
The Speaker laid before the House a Communication from the President of the Board of Public Works, transmitting the Annual Report of the President and Directors of the Board—which was, on Mr. Tapp's motion, ordered to be printed for the use of the House.
The Speaker also laid before the House a Communication from the Auditor of Public Accounts, transmitting the list of balances—which, on Mr. Bryce's motion, was ordered to be printed.
And then, on Mr. Berry's motion, the House adjourned until Monday next, at 10 o'clock.
Monday, Jan. 26.
On Mr. Carter's motion, the Committee of Finance were instructed to enquire into the expediency of raising revenue, by license tax on venders of Lottery Tickets.
On Mr. Boyd's motion, leave was given to bring in a bill to amend the Act to establish two new Banks, within the Commonwealth passed 5th of Feb. 1817.
An engrossed bill to amend the act, entitled an act to punish arson, the burning or setting fire to houses in towns, the malicious burning any house or houses, or stable, and certain house breakers and accessories to felonies and receivers of stolen goods, was read a third time, certain blanks filled, and passed.
The Speaker laid before the House a communication from the Board of Public Works, in relation to the Manchester & Petersburg Turnpike Company.
CONVENTION.
Mr. Gordon called up the Convention Bill.
Mr. Goggin moved to reconsider the vote ordering the bill to be engrossed. He did so at the particular request of his colleague, Mr. Munns, who had been absent for some days.
This proposition gave rise to a protracted conversation, which involved to some extent the merits of the bill, and in which Messrs. Munns, Doddridge, Gordon, Braxton, Goode, Gregory, Duncan, Mason of King George, Christian of Charles City, Parker of Caroline, Zittle, Parker of Northampton, McMullin of Lee, Allen, Wallace, Lertil, Everett, Miller of Botetourt, Wetherell, Daniel, Davis of Orange, and Epps took part.
The question was then taken, and the motion to reconsider was carried—Ayes 97, noes 110.
The blanks in the bill were then filled, the most important of which was, that which designates the first Monday in June as the period for the meeting of the Convention in the event the election taking place at the ordinary spring elections.
On the passage of the bill, Mr. Watts called for the ayes and noes.
Mr. Woolfolk offered a Rider, which required that the Auditor should not issue a warrant to pay more than one member from each county, unless the counties sending more should first deposit the necessary sum in the Treasury. Those, he said, who claimed power and obtained an unequal representation should pay for it, or not pay the expenses of their extra delegates. Shenandoah which paid out a small sum in the Treasury more than for its rightful number of Delegates.
Mr. Gordon remarked that Albemarle paid about $1000, some of which he hoped would go to pay the Shenandoah delegation.
Mr. Keller called for the ayes and noes—
The Rider was rejected, Ayes 46, Noes 153.
The ayes are,
Messrs. Booker of Amelia, Parker of Caroline, Christian of Charles City, Tyler of Chas. City, Richardson of Charlotte, Wilson of Dinwiddie, Booker of Elizabeth City, Upshur of Essex, Smith of Essex, Binns, Spencer of Greensville, Tazewell, Scott, Atkinson of L. of W., Pordock & Q. Upshaw of K.&Q., Odham, Pollard of King William, Leland, Hudgins, Goode, Chown, Murdaugh, Christian C. New Kent, Walden, Parker of Northampton, Bse Harding, Anderson of Nottoway, Daniel, Woolfolk, Anderson of Prince Edward, Y. ndhouse, West, Temple, Keves and Parker of Prince George, Goode, wvo, Green of Southampton, Ford, Crump, Ruffin, Dillard, Brown of Warwick, Peerson Gri-by and Moody -40
The other members present, voted in the negative.
The question recurred on the passage of the bill.
Messrs. Christian of Charles City opposed the bill as unworthy and such as he could not vote for—Mr Munns took the same ground.
Messrs Grigsby Parker of Northampton explained the grounds on which they should vote for the bill. The bill passed—Ayes 162, Noes 81.
Those who voted in the affirmative are:
Messrs. Bailey, Gordon, Nelson, Partridge, Tazewell, Jeter, Ellis, Dunlop, Clark, Leigh, Stithington, Gaggin, Boyd, Ward, Miller of Botetourt, Anderson of Botetourt, Doddridge, Edgington, Thornburg, Everett, Rives of Campbell, Mercer, Hill, Turner, Miller of Cumberland, Moss, Fitzhugh of Fairfax, Charlton, Wallace, Sulman, Wynn of Fluvanna, Holland, Gillaspie, Custleman, Mason of Frederick, Pack, Pearis, Gervant, Bryce, Hall, Blair, McLaughlin of Greenbrier, Smith of Greensville, Atkinson of Halifax, Kercheval, Carskadon, Goodall, Seymour, Mallen, Brown of Harrison, Williams, May, Harvie, Dyer, Morgan, Wallis, Smith of Kanawha, Dunbar, Allen of Lee, McMillan, Bland, Camden, Dinwiddie, Streeton, Eliza, Powell of Loudoun, Kumbrough, Johnson of Louisa, Street, McVarland of Lynchburg, McColloch, Stribling, Watts, Wilson, Caperton, Nash, Craig, Kent, Glass, O'Ferrall, Rives of Nelson, Megginson, Kelly, McLaughlin of Nicholas, Parker of Northampton, Read, Parrott, Fitzhugh of Ohio, Tatum, Adams, Jones of Pendleton, Dice, Witcher, Walton, Arbogast, Gilliland, Allen of Preston, Zinn, Macrae, Tyler of Prince William, White of Rockbridge, Moore, McLaughlin, Chinn, Alexander of Russell, McFarland of Russell, Martin, Morrison, Carson, Lovell, George, Daskios, McCoy, Ingram, Cunnings, Keller, Spencer of Wood, Tavener, Saunders of Wythe, Strange, Grigsby, May and Rotherfoord-118.
Those who voted in the negative are:
Messrs. Banks (the Speaker), Booker of Amelia, Mennis, Beasley, Trotter, Yancey, Parker of Caroline, Christian of Charles City, Tyler of Charles City, Gaines, Richardson of Charlotte, Johnson of Chesterfield, Burfoot, Fitzgerald, Wynn of Dinwiddie, Boisseau, Wray, Booker of Elizabeth City, Upshaw of Essex, Pitts, Smith of Gloucester, Billups, Spencer of Greensville, Taylor, Scott, White of Hanover, Atkinson of Isle of Wight, Cole, Richardson of James City, Pollard of King and Queen, Mason of King George, Oldham, Plunkett, Jard of King William, Gregory, Leland, Hall, Finks, Hodgins, Braxton, Alexander of Mecklenburg, Goode, Segar, Booth, Cohoon, Murdaugh, Christian of New Kent, Warden, anning, Baughy, Anderson of Nottoway, Duvall, Woolfolk, Old, M. Her of Powhatan, Dupuy, Anderson of Prince Edward, Woodhouse, Ward, Temple, Rives of Prince George, Carter, Barnes, G. Sandwyn, Griffin of Southampton, Minor, Powell of Spotsylvania, Cook, Ford, Crump of Surrey, Rafin of Surry, Dillard, Epps, Brown of Warwick, Preston, Newton, Hungerford, Shield, Griffin of York and Moody-91.
The House then went into the execution of the joint order of the day, and re-appointed Thomas Nelson, General Agent or Storekeeper, and Samuel P. Parsons, superintendent of the Penitentiary, both without opposition—and then the House adjourned.
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Monday, Jan. 26
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the convention bill passed with ayes 162, noes 81. rider rejected ayes 46, noes 153. re-appointments of thomas nelson and samuel p. parsons without opposition. various motions and reports ordered printed.
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The House of Delegates debated amendments to the Convention bill, including provisions for submitting the new constitution to the people. After debates and votes, the bill was passed. Other business included instructions to committees, bill introductions, passage of an arson amendment bill, and receipt of communications from public boards.