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Domestic News February 19, 1827

Phenix Gazette

Alexandria, Virginia

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In the Virginia House of Delegates on February 15, resolutions by Mr. Carter to withhold pay from absent members were debated and laid on the table 86-72. The Circuit Court Bill was also debated, with a rider passed, but ultimately laid on the table, and the House adjourned.

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From the Richmond Compiler, February 15.
VIRGINIA LEGISLATURE.
HOUSE OF DELEGATES.

Mr. Carter of Prince William, offered the following:

Resolved, by the Senate and House of Delegates, That if any Member in either branch of the Legislature, shall, during the session of that branch of the Legislature to which he belongs, absent himself from the seat of Government, either with or without leave of such branch of the Legislature, it shall not be lawful for such member to draw pay for such day or days of absence.

Resolved also, That it shall be the duty of the Clerk previous to his delivering to any member, a certificate of the amount that may be due him from the Treasury, to ascertain from such member, the time, if any, that he may have been absent, and to modify the certificate according to the provision of the above resolution.

Mr. Colston moved unsuccessfully to strike out the second resolution. He then called for a division of the question; thinking the last resolution would place the clerk in a delicate situation.

Mr. Holleman moved to amend the first resolution so as to insert the words hour or hours, when speaking of the time absent—negatived.

Mr. Watkins of Prince Edward, moved to strike out the words from the Seat of Government—agreed to 95 to 62.

Mr. Miller, looking on the imputation upon the character of the House, moved to lay the resolutions on the table. He thought the present law met the views of the mover.

Mr. Carter remarked, that there was a difference of opinion as to the present law. Some Members thought themselves entitled to pay, when absent for a day or two without leave, and also when absent with leave—others thought differently. He thought there ought to be no difference in the practice on this subject, and that a declaration of the opinion of the House was necessary.

Some further conversation took place, in which Messrs. Colston, Ship, Carter and Wallace took part. It was urged that a resolution could not affect a law, and would not be binding on future legislatures. The latter thought the law explicit enough, it allowed pay for every day's attendance on the House, and he thought no man could consider himself in attendance when absent. Mr. Davis of Hanover, opposed the resolutions, and wished to lay them on the table, and in reply to Mr. W's remark, said, that members drew pay for the sabbath, when not in attendance. The resolutions were laid on the table 86 to 72.

Circuit Court Bill—Mr. Winston's motion to re-consider the vote, rejecting the Circuit Court Bill, was again taken up. Mr. Stephenson, called for the previous question. On this motion Mr. Gholson called for the ayes and noes, which being taken, Mr. S's. call was sustained. 95 to 74.

Mr Gholson took the floor in opposition to the bill. He was followed on the same side by Mr. Mason, of Frederick—Mr. Craig having been unsuccessful in an attempt to get the floor to call for the previous question. Mr. Winston supported the bill at length, and offered a rider, providing that the judges of the General Court, when chosen and commissioned as such, shall act as judges in Chancery. The rider was passed to its engrossment—and after a few remarks from Mr. Colston in opposition to the bill, Mr. Mason, of Fairfax, moved to lay the bill on the table. This motion prevailed—and then the House adjourned.

What sub-type of article is it?

Politics Legal Or Court

What keywords are associated?

Virginia Legislature House Delegates Member Absence Pay Circuit Court Bill Legislative Debate

What entities or persons were involved?

Mr. Carter Of Prince William Mr. Colston Mr. Holleman Mr. Watkins Of Prince Edward Mr. Miller Mr. Ship Mr. Wallace Mr. Davis Of Hanover Mr. Winston Mr. Stephenson Mr. Gholson Mr. Mason Of Frederick Mr. Craig Mr. Mason Of Fairfax

Where did it happen?

Virginia

Domestic News Details

Primary Location

Virginia

Event Date

February 15

Key Persons

Mr. Carter Of Prince William Mr. Colston Mr. Holleman Mr. Watkins Of Prince Edward Mr. Miller Mr. Ship Mr. Wallace Mr. Davis Of Hanover Mr. Winston Mr. Stephenson Mr. Gholson Mr. Mason Of Frederick Mr. Craig Mr. Mason Of Fairfax

Outcome

resolutions on member pay during absence laid on the table 86 to 72. circuit court bill, with passed rider on chancery judges, laid on the table. house adjourned.

Event Details

Mr. Carter offered resolutions to deny pay to absent legislators and require clerks to adjust certificates accordingly. Amendments and motions debated, including strikes and divisions, but resolutions laid on table. Circuit Court Bill reconsidered; previous question sustained 95-74. Debates by Gholson, Mason of Frederick, Winston (with rider passed), Colston, Mason of Fairfax; bill laid on table.

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