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Domestic News November 4, 1789

Gazette Of The United States

New York, New York County, New York

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Abstract of the journal from the first session of the US Senate, detailing proceedings from May 4 to May 12, including debates and passage of a bill on administering oaths, discussions on presidential titles, committee appointments, and messages with the House of Representatives.

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ABSTRACT of JOURNAL of the FIRST SESSION of the SENATE of the UNITED STATES.

MONDAY, MAY 4.

Agreeably to the order of the day, the Senate proceeded in the second reading of a bill, entitled "An act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths," and to the consideration of the amendments reported by the Committee, which are as follows:

In line 1, strike out the words "Congress of the United States," and insert, "Senate and Representatives of the United States of America in Congress Assembled."

At the end of the second paragraph add the words "of the Senate, and insert the following clause, "And be it further Enacted, That the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers of the several states, who have been heretofore chosen or appointed, or who shall be chosen or appointed before the 1st day of August next, and who shall then be in office, shall, within one month thereafter, take the same oath or affirmation, except where they shall have taken it before; which may be administered by any person authorized by the law of the State in which such office shall be holden, to administer oaths—And the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers of the Several States, who shall be chosen or appointed, after the said first day of August, shall, before they proceed to execute the duties of their respective offices, take the foregoing oath or affirmation, which shall be administered by the person or persons, who by the law of the State, shall be authorized to administer the oath of office; and the person or persons so administering the oath hereby required to be taken, shall cause a record or certificate thereof to be made, in the same manner as by the law of the State, he, or they shall be directed to record or certify the oath of office."

In the last paragraph, strike out the words "of the United States of America," in the third and fourth lines, and insert the same words in the fourth line next after the words "as the case may be."

And being accepted, Tuesday morning, 11 o'clock, was assigned for the third reading of the bill.

The report of the Committee to whom was referred the motion made the 1st instant, upon the mode of sending messages to, and receiving them from the House of Representatives, was read, and ordered to lie for consideration. Adjourned.

TUESDAY, MAY 5.

Agreeably to the order of the day, the bill, entitled "An act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths," was read a third time, and passed the Senate with amendments.

Ordered, That the Secretary carry the aforementioned bill to the House of Representatives, together with the amendments, and address the Speaker in the following words:

SIR,

THE Senate have passed a bill, entitled, "An act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths," with amendments, to which they desire the concurrence of your House.

Ordered, That when a bill has passed the Senate, the Secretary shall endorse the final determination thereon, and the day when such final question was taken, previous to its being transmitted to the House of Representatives. Adjourned to Thursday.

THURSDAY, MAY 7.

The Committee, appointed to confer with such Committee as might be appointed on the part of the House of Representatives to report what Style or Titles it will be proper to annex to the Office of President and of Vice President of the United States, if any other than those given in the Constitution, Reported: Which Report was ordered to lie for consideration.

The Report of the Committee upon the motion committed May 1st, was considered, and the first paragraph thereof accepted

Whereupon,

Ordered, that when a messenger shall come from the House of Representatives to the Senate, and shall be announced by the door-keeper of the House, the messenger shall be received or messengers within the bar. A Member [shall inform] the President [when rising] when the message is [delivered] by one Member and the Senate also when it is by two or more. If [the messenger is] at the bar [and is] by the [door] be not announced as Secretary a Member and of the the House [with a] bill [from the] Secretary, and be by him delivered to the President.

The Committee appointed to prepare an answer to the President's Speech, delivered to the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States, reported.

(For the Answer of the Senate to the President's Speech see our paper of May 20.)

Mr. Beckley, the Clerk of the House of Representatives, delivered a message, purporting, "That the House had concurred with the Senate in the amendments proposed on a bill, entitled "An act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths"—and "That the House proposed an amendment, to the third amendment, by inserting after the word "Legislatures in the first place," the words "At the next election of the said Legislatures respectively."

He also brought to the Senate a resolve of the House of Representatives, appointing Mr. Bland, Mr. Trumbull, and Mr. Vining a Committee on the part of the House, to confer with any Committee to be appointed on the part of the Senate, and report "Joint rules to be established between the two Houses, for the enrollment &c. of the acts of Congress, and to confer on the mode of presenting addresses, bills, &c. to the President."—And he withdrew.

The Senate agreed to the amendment proposed by the House of Representatives to the amendment to the afore-mentioned Bill—

And appointed Mr. Langdon, Mr. Read, and Mr. Henry, a Committee on their part, for the purpose expressed in the resolve of the House of Representatives received this day; which together with the concurrence of the Senate to the amendment on the amendment to the bill above mentioned, was carried to the House by the Secretary.

Adjourned.

FRIDAY, MAY 8.

The Report of the Committee appointed to determine "What Style or Titles it will be proper to annex to the Office of President and Vice President of the United States, if any other than those given in the Constitution"—and, to confer with a Committee of the House of Representatives appointed for that purpose—Was considered and disagreed to.

The question was taken "Whether the President of the United States shall be addressed by the Title of His Excellency?"—and it passed in the negative.

On motion, That a Committee of three be appointed to consider and report under what Title it will be proper for the Senate to address the President of the United States, Mr. Lee, Mr. Ellsworth, and Mr. Johnson, were elected. Adjourned.

SATURDAY, MAY 9.

Mr. Beckley, the Clerk of the House of Representatives, delivered a message, purporting, That the House had accepted the report of a Committee appointed to consider what Style or Title it will be proper to annex to the Office of President and of Vice President of the United States, if any other than those given in the Constitution. And he withdrew.

Ordered, That Mr. Few, Mr. Maclay and Mr. Strong, be a Committee to view the apartments in the City Hall, and to confer with any Committee that may be appointed by the House of Representatives for that purpose, and report how the same shall be appropriated.

The Committee appointed to consider under what Title it will be proper for the Senate to address the President of the United States, Reported—The consideration of which was postponed until Monday next.

The Secretary was charged with a message to the House of Representatives, with the order of Senate passed the 7th instant, on the mode adopted by the Senate in receiving communications from the House.

Ordered, That Mr. Lee, Mr. Ellsworth and Mr. Johnson be a Committee, to confer with any Committee, to be appointed by the House of Representatives on the difference of opinion now subsisting between the two Houses, respecting the Title of the President of the United States—And on motion for Reconsideration, the instruction to the Committee was agreed to as follows:

"That they consider and report under what Title it will be proper for the President of the United States in future to be addressed, and to confer thereon with such Committee as the House of Representatives may appoint for that purpose."

The Secretary carried to the House of Representatives the appointment of a committee on the part of the Senate to view the rooms of the City Hall, and to confer upon their appropriation,

—The Rejection of the Report of the Committee appointed to consider what Style, &c. it will be proper to annex to the Offices of President and of Vice President,
—And the appointment of a Committee on the part of the Senate to confer, on a Title under which it will be proper to address the President of the United States.

Adjourned.

MONDAY, MAY 11.

Ordered, That the consideration of the Report of the Committee upon "the Title by which it will be proper for the Senate to address the President" be postponed until Tuesday next.

Ordered, That a Committee to consist of Mr. Ellsworth, Mr. Carroll, and Mr. Few, be appointed to consider and report a mode of carrying into execution the second paragraph, of the third section, of the first article of the Constitution.

The Committee appointed the 13th of April to confer with a Committee of the House of Representatives, upon the future disposition of the papers in the Office of the late Secretary of Congress, made a Report which was ordered to lie until a Committee appointed May 7, to confer with a Committee of the House "On joint rules to be established for the enrollment, &c. of the acts of Congress" should report. Adjourned.

TUESDAY, MAY 12.

Mr. Morris, from the State of Pennsylvania, appeared and took his seat in the Senate.

Mr. Beckley, the Clerk of the House of Representatives, delivered a message, purporting, that the House had concurred in the appointment of a Committee on their part, consisting of Mr. White, Mr. Scott and Mr. Sturges to confer with the Committee appointed on the part of the Senate, May 9th, on the appropriation of the rooms in the City Hall;—Also, that the House had appointed a Committee, consisting of Mr. Madison, Mr. Trumbull, Mr. Page, Mr. Benson, and Mr. Sherman, to confer with any Committee that the Senate shall appoint on the disagreeing votes of the Senate and House of Representatives upon the report of the joint Committee, appointed, to consider what Titles shall be given to the President and to the Vice President of the United States any other than those given in the Constitution.—And he withdrew.

Ordered that the Committee appointed the 9th of May to consider by what Title it will be proper for the Senate to address the President of the United States, do confer with the Committee of the House of Representatives, agreeably to the proposition in their message of this day.

Motion on the Committee, appointed to address the President, to proceed, was postponed to Thursday next.

Adjourned.

What sub-type of article is it?

Politics

What keywords are associated?

Senate Proceedings Oaths Bill Presidential Titles Joint Committees House Messages First Congress

What entities or persons were involved?

Mr. Beckley Mr. Langdon Mr. Read Mr. Henry Mr. Lee Mr. Ellsworth Mr. Johnson Mr. Few Mr. Maclay Mr. Strong Mr. Morris Mr. Bland Mr. Trumbull Mr. Vining Mr. Carroll Mr. White Mr. Scott Mr. Sturges Mr. Madison Mr. Page Mr. Benson Mr. Sherman

Domestic News Details

Event Date

May 4 To May 12

Key Persons

Mr. Beckley Mr. Langdon Mr. Read Mr. Henry Mr. Lee Mr. Ellsworth Mr. Johnson Mr. Few Mr. Maclay Mr. Strong Mr. Morris Mr. Bland Mr. Trumbull Mr. Vining Mr. Carroll Mr. White Mr. Scott Mr. Sturges Mr. Madison Mr. Page Mr. Benson Mr. Sherman

Outcome

bill on oaths passed with amendments and concurred by house; report on presidential titles disagreed to, 'his excellency' rejected; various committees appointed on titles, joint rules, room appropriations, and constitutional execution; mr. morris seated.

Event Details

Proceedings of the first session of the US Senate including second and third readings and passage of a bill regulating oaths for federal and state officials; considerations on messaging with House; debates and committees on presidential and vice-presidential titles; appointments of committees for joint rules, room appropriations in City Hall, response to President's speech, and constitutional matters; messages exchanged with House via Mr. Beckley.

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