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Foreign News August 14, 1772

The New Hampshire Gazette And Historical Chronicle

Portsmouth, Greenland, Rockingham County, New Hampshire

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In the British House of Commons, the corn exportation bill and game bill, returned from the Lords with amendments, were both rejected nem. con. due to the Lords' lack of right to alter money-levying bills. Debate highlighted precedents and liberties, with key speakers including Governor Pownall, Mr. Burke, and others. Sir Fletcher Norton dramatically tossed the bills.

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Yesterday the corn exportation bill was brought back to the House of Commons from the Lords with amendments, which was ordered to be read, and after undergoing some very severe animadversions it was rejected nem. con. In a short time the game bill underwent the same fate, with this difference, however that the principle on which it was rejected underwent some discussion. Not one of the ministerial members said a word in opposition to this measure. The motives assigned by the house for rejecting both bills were, that the house of Lords had no right to alter any bill, by which money was to be levied on the subject. In the debate of the latter it was urged, that money levied by way of penalty could not be properly looked on in that light; to which Mr. Solicitor General replied, it was not the sum to be levied, nor the manner of levying it, but the precedent which it might establish, and the doctrines and principles it might hereafter maintain; and concluded by remarking, that it was not 40s. that the glorious Hampden contended, but for the property, liberties, and privileges of his countrymen. The affair took near 2 hours; the principal speakers were Governor Pownall, Mr. Burke Mr. T. Townshend, Lord John, & Lord James Cavendish, Mr. Dempster, Mr. Solicitor-General, Captain Phipps, and the Speaker. Sir Fletcher Norton protested before he put the question yesterday, on the corn and game bills, that he was sincerely for throwing them both over the table; and when they were rejected, he was as good as his word, for he tossed them into the very middle of the house. So strong a sense have the House of Commons of the inattention, nay the contempt shewn to them, by the other house, in a number of particulars, that as the rejected bills lay yesterday on the floor, where the Speaker had thrown them, several of the members, on going out before the house broke up, kicked them about, and tore them with their feet.

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Political

What keywords are associated?

House Of Commons Bill Rejection Lords Amendments Corn Exportation Game Bill Parliamentary Debate Sir Fletcher Norton

What entities or persons were involved?

Governor Pownall Mr. Burke Mr. T. Townshend Lord John Lord James Cavendish Mr. Dempster Mr. Solicitor General Captain Phipps The Speaker Sir Fletcher Norton

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Event Date

Yesterday

Key Persons

Governor Pownall Mr. Burke Mr. T. Townshend Lord John Lord James Cavendish Mr. Dempster Mr. Solicitor General Captain Phipps The Speaker Sir Fletcher Norton

Outcome

both the corn exportation bill and the game bill were rejected nem. con. by the house of commons; bills were tossed and kicked by members.

Event Details

The corn exportation bill returned from the Lords with amendments and was rejected after severe criticism. The game bill was similarly rejected following discussion on the principle, with no ministerial opposition. The House argued the Lords had no right to alter money-levying bills. Debate on the game bill addressed penalties versus precedents, referencing Hampden's stand for liberties. The debate lasted nearly 2 hours with principal speakers listed. Sir Fletcher Norton tossed the bills into the middle of the house, and members kicked and tore them.

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