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Foreign News June 21, 1808

Virginia Argus

Richmond, Virginia

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English papers from late April report on British focus on US for peace or war decision, firm stance on Orders in Council against Napoleon's decrees, updates on diplomatic missions like Rose's and Pinkney's, a planned expedition to Flushing, American military buildup proposals, and embargo impacts.

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FROM THE PHILADELPHIA GAZETTE.

On Sunday arrived the schr. America, capt. Brown, from Liverpool, and on Monday ship Jane, Bliss from London. By the former we have received Liverpool papers to the 25th, and by the latter London papers to the 27th, April they contain nothing particularly interesting. The politicians of England turn their eyes to this country for a decision of the question of peace or war. The public sentiment was fluctuating amidst a multitude of fears, hopes and conjectures: the predominant wish was in favor of preserving peace with this country.

Neither the Osage nor Mr. Nourse had arrived in England at the time of the Jane's sailing and the idea already conceived of her being under seizure in France was daily obtaining credit.

The British parliament was to meet on the 1st of May.

Intelligent passengers arrived in the Jane, say, that the present British ministry will certainly never relax in the late orders in council, until Bonaparte recedes from practising on the principles avowed in his Berlin and Milan decrees; in retaliation of which the orders were ostensibly issued. As Bonaparte no doubt will hold the same language with regard to England, the termination of the present disastrous state of things is beyond all ordinary calculation.

The Jane from London, brings dispatches from Mr. Pinkney, for the secretary of state.

The expedition which sailed from England, about the 27th April it was said, had for its first object a visit to Flushing, for the destruction of several ships of war equipping in that port.

Admiral Berkeley, on his return to England, had a public audience with the king at his levee. Capt. Humphreys of the Leopard, had sailed from England for the East India station.

The pilot who boarded capt. Bliss, on Saturday last, informed him, that two hours before, was alongside of a French privateer schooner, from the appearance of which he conceived her to be the Superior, lately cleared from this port. A thick fog coming on, prevented her from perceiving the Jane.

Price of stocks, April 26, at 1 o'clock, -Consols, for money, 66 5-8-for account 67 1-2. Reduced 66 3-4 7-8. Exchequer bills 6s. a 7s. prem.

LONDON, April 26.

It was yesterday reported that the Osage had arrived from France, with Mr. Nourse on board. There were rumors also that general Armstrong had left Paris. The latter very important event is altogether without confirmation The former fact we could not trace to any authority; but the Sirius frigate has brought letters to Mr. Nourse, from whence we may infer that England was at least his destination.

We have already stated,-in general terms, the result of Mr. Rose's mission. It is said, that the explanation he was sent to give was not in fact given, it being offered conditionally only, in case the President consented to annul his proclamation against admitting English ships of war into the American waters. At the same time it was expressly noticed, that this omission was to be considered as a mere affair of etiquette, not an expression of hostility.

In the mean while the embargo continues and we find, from all accounts, that the sufferings it has produced are excessive; seventy-five houses are said to have failed in New York alone.

We have received American papers to the 10th ult. and made extracts of various interest and importance. Our readers will perceive a disposition on the part of that government to increase their military force. A proposal has been made to raise 6000 regular troops, and organise 24,000 volunteers. In the message from the President, introducing this measure, there was no pointed allusion to either of the European belligerent powers. In the accounts we have received, there is a reference made to the confidential correspondence of the American ministers, which had been imparted to the legislative body; the injunction of secrecy was afterwards removed, but we have not yet seen the papers at full: they are alluded to in the debates published. It will be curious to compare hereafter, the relative tone and style made use of by the American ministers to the English and French governments.

Mr. Pinkney has, it is said, been nominated by the president, and approved by the senate, as the minister to our Court; and it is expected that Messrs. CLINTON and MONROE will be elected president and vice-president at the ensuing election.

April 27.

As far as Mr. Rose's mission tended to offer explanations with respect to the affair of the Chesapeake, those explanations were deemed satisfactory. His mission did not extend to the other points in dispute, but it is believed that he required the removal of the interdiction of the American ports and waters, which had been laid on in consequence of the affair of the Chesapeake.--This request was refused, the president declaring that it would not be removed till all the other points in dispute had been adjusted.-But this declaration was accompanied with an assurance that no hostile intentions were entertained against England, but situated as they were in regard to this country and France, they wished to continue in retirement from both Fresh instructions have been sent to the American ministers at London and Paris. Mr Pinkney has been nominated by the president, and approved by the senate, as minister to our court. In this state affairs were at the departure of Mr. Rose.

The French decree having originated the system which our orders of council were merely intended to countervail the president has applied to the French government in the first instance.

Our government having on this occasion, acted merely on the defensive and in conformity to the strictest principles of justice, desirous only, as they were, of avoiding the certain ruin of carrying on so unequal a war as that of forbearance and moderation, opposed to violence and aggression, will return, as soon as circumstances will permit, to a system so congenial to the disposition and habits of Britain, as that from which it so slowly and reluctantly digressed. It remains, therefore, first to bring the French government to a sense of right, and America will be sure of justice from Great Britain.

Mr. Rose took a friendly leave of Mr. President Jefferson on the 28th ult. and no doubt. was entertained of those moderate characters, Messrs, Clinton and Monroe, being elected to the presidency and vice- presidency of the United States, at the ensuing election. Mr. Erskine remains in America.

In the mean while the American papers which we have received to the 10th ult. and of which we have given extracts, hold a tone and language unfavorable to peace. In this they are encouraged by a recent message from the president, which recommends the raising 6000 regulars and 24,000 volunteers. In communicating this fact, one of the American papers adds, that "a number of French officers are said to have arrived at New Orleans."

What sub-type of article is it?

Diplomatic War Report Political

What keywords are associated?

Anglo American Relations Orders In Council Rose Mission Chesapeake Affair American Embargo Us Military Buildup French Decrees British Expedition Flushing Pinkney Nomination

What entities or persons were involved?

Bonaparte Mr. Nourse Mr. Pinkney Admiral Berkeley Capt. Humphreys Mr. Rose General Armstrong Messrs. Clinton And Monroe Mr. Erskine Mr. President Jefferson

Where did it happen?

England

Foreign News Details

Primary Location

England

Event Date

April 25 27

Key Persons

Bonaparte Mr. Nourse Mr. Pinkney Admiral Berkeley Capt. Humphreys Mr. Rose General Armstrong Messrs. Clinton And Monroe Mr. Erskine Mr. President Jefferson

Outcome

british ministry firm on orders in council until french recede; rose's mission explanations conditional and partially satisfactory; american embargo causes excessive sufferings with 75 houses failed in new york; us proposes raising 6000 regular troops and 24000 volunteers; pinkney nominated as minister to britain; expectations of clinton and monroe election.

Event Details

Ships from Liverpool and London bring English papers detailing public hopes for peace with America amid fears; unconfirmed reports on Osage and Nourse; Parliament to meet May 1; ministry to maintain Orders in Council against French decrees; Pinkney dispatches; expedition to destroy ships at Flushing; Berkeley audience with king; Humphreys to East Indies; possible French privateer sighting; stock prices; rumors of Osage arrival and Armstrong departure; Rose mission results on Chesapeake affair, refusal to lift interdiction; fresh instructions to US ministers; American military increase proposals without allusion to belligerents; confidential correspondences; unfavorable tone in US papers with French officers rumor at New Orleans.

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