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Foreign News July 12, 1817

Daily National Intelligencer

Washington, District Of Columbia

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In the House of Commons, Mr. Grattan's motion for a Committee on the Catholic Question was defeated by a majority of 24 (Ayes 221, Noes 245). This contrasts with 1813 successes, showing a decline in support for Catholic relief.

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LONDON, MAY 10.

We give this day a full report of the Debate last night in the House of Commons upon the Catholic Question. It will be seen that Mr Grattan's motion for a Committee was negatived upon a division, by a majority of 24; the numbers being—Ayes, 221—Noes, 245. Many of its friends were yesterday doubtful of its success; some were sanguine, but none, we believe, apprehended so great a defeat. Despondency prevailed through the ranks of its opponents, and a bare majority was the greatest triumph with which they flattered themselves. In contemplating this result, the mind naturally reverts to the last great struggle in the same cause in 1813. On Tuesday the 3d March, in that year, Mr. Grattan's motion for a Committee (the precise motion lost last night) was carried by a majority of 40; Ayes, 264—Noes, 224. On Tuesday the 9th the House went into the Committee, in which Mr. Grattan proposed a Resolution, stating the propriety of providing for the removal of all the civil & military disabilities affecting the Roman Catholics, which Resolution was adopted by a majority of 67; Ayes, 186; Noes, 119; and leave given to bring in a Bill accordingly. Friday the 30th April, the Bill was brought in, and read a first time. On Thursday, the 13th, it was read a second time, after a debate and division; the numbers being, Ayes, 245—Noes, 203; Majority for the second reading 42. And on the 24th, the House went into a Committee on the Bill, when the first clause for the admission of Roman Catholics into both Houses of Parliament, under certain conditions, was lost upon a division; the numbers being, against the clause, 251—for it, 247; Majority 4. It will be seen in the above numbers that the friends of the Catholic Cause have fallen off since 1813, and that their majority on the same question in that year, exceeded by 19 the majority displayed by their opponents last night. We regret this falling off but we trust, when explained, it will be found to have originated in accidental or unavoidable circumstances, and not in change of opinion or other causes, calculated to discourage our hopes of ultimate success.

What sub-type of article is it?

Political

What keywords are associated?

Catholic Question House Of Commons Grattan Motion Parliamentary Debate Catholic Relief 1813 Comparison

What entities or persons were involved?

Mr Grattan

Where did it happen?

London

Foreign News Details

Primary Location

London

Event Date

Last Night (Reported May 10)

Key Persons

Mr Grattan

Outcome

motion negatived by majority of 24; ayes 221, noes 245. compared to 1813: motion carried by 40 (ayes 264, noes 224); resolution adopted by 67 (ayes 186, noes 119); second reading by 42 (ayes 245, noes 203); clause lost by 4 (against 251, for 247).

Event Details

Debate in House of Commons on Catholic Question; Mr Grattan's motion for Committee defeated. Friends doubtful, opponents despondent. Comparison to 1813 successes shows decline in support, hoped due to accidental circumstances.

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