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Editorial February 10, 1808

Norfolk Gazette And Publick Ledger

Norfolk, Virginia

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The Public Ledger editorial details the U.S. House vote on relocating the federal capital from Washington, listing state-by-state tallies favoring northern states. It projects outcomes requiring two-thirds approval, anticipates a presidential veto, and links the effort to election politics involving figures like Jemmy Sloan.

Merged-components note: Table of congressional votes on the seat of government merged with the following editorial analysis of those votes, as they form a single logical unit discussing the topic.

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THE PUBLIC LEDGER.
TO SHEW THE VERY AGE AND BODY OF THE TIMES, HIS FORM AND PRESSURE.
WEDNESESDAY EVENING, FEB. 10, 1808.
The following shews the votes in the House of Representatives of the Congress of the United States, upon the removal of the seat government from Washington, with the names of those who were absent.
NEW-HAMPSHIRE.
Ayes-Carlton, Durell, Gardner, Smith, Storer, MASSACHUSETTS.5 0 0
Ayes-Bacon, Cook, Ely, Livermore, Quincy, Stedman, Taggart, Upham, 8.- Noes, Barker, Chandler, Cutts, Green, Ilsey, Seaver, 6.- Absent, Crowninshield, Deane, Varnum, (Speaker did not vote) RHODE-ISLAND. Absent-Knight, Wildboar, CONNECTICUT. Ayes-Dana, Mosely, Sturgis, Tall-madge, 4.- Absent, Champion, Da-venport, Pitkin, 3. VERMONT. Ayes-Elliot, Fisk, Witherall, Chitten-den, 4. NEW-YORK. Ayes-Blake, Clinton, Gardenier, Har-ris, Masters, Mumford, Riker, Rus-sell, Swart, Thompson, Humphries, 11.- Noes, Kirkpatrick, Van Allen, Verplank, 3.- Absent, Thomas, Van Courtlandt, Vau Ransellaer, 3. NEW-JERSEY. Ayes-Holmes, Newbold, Sloan, 3.- Noes, Lambert, Southard, 2.- Dar-bey, (dead) 1. PENNSYLVANIA. Ayes-Findley, Heister, Hoge, Jenkins, Kelly, Milnor, D. Montgomery, Por-ter, Pugh, Rea, J. Richards, M. Rich-ards, Smile, Smith, Whitehill, 15-Noes, Bard, 1.- Absent, Clay, Brown, 2. DELAWARE. Aye-Vandyke, MARYLAND. Noes-Goldsborough, Key, Lloyd, M'Creery, Montgomery, Moore.- Absent, Campbell, Nelson, Vanhorn, 3. VIRGINIA. Ayes-Clay, Gray, Nicholas, Wilson, 4. Noes, Bassett, Burwell, Eppes, Goodwin, Holmes, Jones, Lewis, Love, Morrow, Newton, Trigg, 11.- Absent, Claiborne, Clopton, Dawson, Garnett, Jackson, Randolph, Smith, 4 11 7. NORTH-CAROLINA. Ayes-Stanford, Macon, 2.- Noes, Alston, Blackledge, Blount, Holland, Kennan, Franklin, 6.- Absent, Alexander, Culpepper, (seat vacated) Sawyer, Williams, 4. SOUTH-CAROLINA. Ayes-Moore, 1.- Noes, Alston, Butler, Marion, Taylor, Winn, 5.- Absent, Calhoun, Williams, 2. GEORGIA. Ayes-Bibb, Cobb, Smelt, 3.- No, Troup, 1. KENTUCKY. Ayes-Boyle, Desha, Howard, Johnson, Rowan, 5.- No, Lyon, 1. TENNESSEE. Aye-Rhea, 1.- Noes, Campbell, Wharton, 2. OHIO. No-Morrow, 1. It appears that the following is the result, Ayes-New-Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New-York, New-Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky. Noes-Maryland, Virginia, North-Carolina, Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio. By States-Ayes, Noes, Did not vote Rhode-Island, Members absent or who did not vote. From Massachusetts, Rhode-Island, Connecticut, New-Jersey, New-York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, North


If all the members could be present, and those north of Delaware, who have not voted, should vote in the affirmative, and those south of that state vote in the negative, the votes would stand (deducting Darby, dead, and Culpepper, seat vacated) ayes 80, noes 60. Of this number 94 will be required to make two thirds.

We have made this statement with a view to shew, that if the Senate and House of Representatives should pass the bill for removing the seat of government, that the refusal of the President to sign it, will prevent it from going into a law.

It was some time since, that reports were in circulation, that an attempt would be made to remove the seat of government during the present session, but as Jemmy Sloan was said to be the prime mover, the report was disregarded; we now apprehend that persons of more "management" than Sloan are at the bottom of this business. We should not be surprized much, if this affair has an intimate connexion with an important approaching election.

What sub-type of article is it?

Constitutional Partisan Politics

What keywords are associated?

Seat Of Government Washington Removal House Votes Presidential Veto Political Intrigue Election Connection

What entities or persons were involved?

House Of Representatives President Jemmy Sloan

Editorial Details

Primary Topic

Removal Of The Seat Of Government From Washington

Stance / Tone

Skeptical Of Removal Attempt And Political Motives

Key Figures

House Of Representatives President Jemmy Sloan

Key Arguments

Votes In House On Removal: Ayes From Northern States, Noes From Southern If All Present, Ayes Could Reach 80, Noes 60, But Needs 94 For Two Thirds President's Refusal To Sign Would Prevent It Becoming Law Suspected Connection To Approaching Election With More Influential Figures Involved

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